Black Triangle Spotted Over Maryland

[William One Sac]

Are these black triangles secret military balloons? Or are they revolutionary aircraft? If they are terrestrial in origin, it is kind of scary the technology some among us possess.

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<QUOTE>"It was very dark and this thing was so hard to see," he said. "But it was moving slowly, with no lights and no noise. Honestly, I didn’t feel comfortable. It was sort of scary."
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http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=37376

[agentmoulder254]

I'd like to see the original picture, there could be some scientific explanation for this. I'd also like to be able to remember what I learned in science class for the past 8 years.

[William One Sac]

The above picture is real. It was taken during a wave of black triangle sightings that took place in Belgium several years ago. Even the Belgium government admitted their skies were being invaded by these ufo's.

[agentmoulder254]

Ok, but a lot of it looks like some sort of reflection

[William One Sac]

Agent M, check out this video, you will need Real Video to watch though...

http://www.subversiveelement.com/files/belgian.ram

[agentmoulder254]

Not only did it <u>not load</u>, but it overwrote bouncin round the room

[William One Sac]

Really? It did take a minute to load here, but I did get to watch the presentation. Are you on dial up? If so that may explain the problems you encountered. By " but it overwrote bouncin round the room" you mean... ???

[agentmoulder254]

its a phish song, i was playing it on realplayer and it automatically stopped to load the video, but the video didnt finish. and no, i dont have dialup

[William One Sac]

Sorry you didnt get to watch it. By the way, did you see the special by Peter Jennings last night on tv? It was pretty good, although I dont think he did a good job on the Roswell incident.

[agentmoulder254]

No, I'm out of touch with the devil, I mean the news.

[David87]

Did anyone of you hear about the UFO that was spotted over Washington D.C? It was about two weeks ago I believe. I'm surprised no one here mentioned it. Or maybe I missed it.

[William One Sac]

I havent heard anything about it. Was it reported in the media? Do you know any details about it? I usually check the news each day for related stories, but I have been slacking off lately.

[agentmoulder254]

That wouldn't be the first time it happened. I'm not sure if it was Nixon's, Ford's, or Raegan's presidency(I think it was one of them) but there was a sighting called the Merry-Go-Round sighting. I heard about it after watching extensive special episode by special episode on the history channel for an elongated period of time.

[:D Smilee :D]

the quotes says there was no lights, but there is clearely 4 lights.... hmmm.....

[:D Smilee :D]

the quotes says there was no lights, but there is clearely 4 lights.... hmmm.....

[David87]

http://www.mediavillage.net/test/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=12

That's the link. I would give you a picture but I don't know how.

[agentmoulder254]

Nope, my computer is going uberslow

[SkepticJo]

Talking about UFO's...irrespective of whatever the govt.
denies or says (amazing over the yrs.how they have tried
so hard to convince the public UFO's are weather balloons,
ball lightning, swamp gas, etc.; instead of simply just denying them)the biggest majority of the public believe in
UFO's...so it appears the govt. has done a pee-poor job of convincing us that UFO's DON't exist! But what I wonder is:
what if UFO's came to visit that weren't just observing and
were unfriendly...what if they had weapons that we don't have...or if they came in multitudes....that's scarey....some book I was reading says that the astronauts were on the surface of the moon and UFO's were lined up & made it clear to them that we were not welcome there! And that most of the lunar visits etc. our astronauts observed UFO's
& were not to talk about it over the radio so the public
would not hear any of the transmissions...

[agentmoulder254]

It would be nearly impossible to prepare for something as alien(for lack of a better word) as an alien(ditto) attack.

[William One Sac]

I think that if aliens were planning on attacking, they would have done so long ago. That of course is assuming that they are real. However from personal experience and what I have researched I do believe there are things that have flown in our atmosphere that have a non- terrestrial origin.

[agentmoulder254]

What makes you sure they would have? Better yet, what makes you sure they didn't have?

[SkepticJo]

I think we can safely say that most all of the UFO's that
have visited have done so on friendly terms. They seem to
come to observe and some come to take samples we might
assume of our larger animals (assuming they are in fact the
ones that leave mutilated animals with no internal organs
that have been removed with surgical precision & drained
of blood. Still other aliens seem to be interested more in
our people & experiment on them by way of abductions;
which then includes their "medical examinations". But you
can't help but wonder what they want? Are they experi-
menting on our animals for some future need of THEIRS?
It seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that they are trying
to help us by experimenting on them. So it must be for some need of theirs. Are they trying to grow cattle where
they live? It seems even far out to suggest that aliens
could be such an advanced people to have space flight so
far more advanced than we have yet they are so totally
unfamiliar with bovines! I think it's all weird-totally weird.

[agentmoulder254]

<QUOTE><I>Originally posted by SkepticJo</I>
It seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that they are trying
to help us by experimenting on them.</QUOTE>

But yet it doesn't seem ridiculous that somewhere in a completely different galaxy(perhaps) that these grey beings have conquered interdimensional space travel, decide to observe our every move, abduct people for only God(s) knows what? I think farfetched medical practices for benefit of our planet could fit right in there, assuming that the entire thing is as farfetched as it seems. Not to say I don't believe in extraterrestrial visits, and things of that nature, I'm just saying. Here's a thought though: Scientists and skeptics claim that seeing a UFO is often an illusion of nature, scientists also claim that an abduction tale is something that the brain can produce when in a certain state of mind during sleep, but if certain witnessing <I>and</I> tales(such as the Alligash{sp?}) are true, then how do you explain that, 6 or so men had been in the same state of mind simultaneously during a dream, in which a bright light, which was a mirage, approached them? Not to mention it's rather hard to sleep through such a bright light.

[David87]

We've gone over this before.
Possibilities as to what the aliens are:

1. Hallucinations caused by sleep paralysis and electromagnetic fields interfering with the brain.

2. Demons disguised as aliens as part of an eleborate scheme.

3. Humans disguised as aliens as part of an eleborate scheme.

4. Actual aliens from another planet.

5. Actual aliens from another dimension.

Personally, I believe all of the above more or less, but that's just me. You can deny that aliens are visiting the Earth, or any number of things for that matter, but you can't deny that <I>something is</I> happening.

[agentmoulder254]

What about Government related stuff?

[David87]

That's the humans. The government is definitely covering up what ever the truth is about the matter, if they even know. I think I've said something like that before but it's the truth. Also, since the government is running a cover up, we can assume that they're trying to protect the public, themselves, or both.

Now if you were asking if the saucer over Washington and some of the others were government, it's possible.

[SkepticJo]

As far as 6 or so people seeing something at one time that
could be explained quite simple sociologists would say by
something like mass hysteria-a kind of collective insanity
among the whole group...which is why like at a large
gathering of people it is important for security to maintain
control because a large mass of people tend to think
collectively rather than individually in such situations and
things can get out of hand rather quickly. I personally
think the mutilated cattle for the most part are the result
of UFO's and aliens experimenting on them. In a good many
of the cases their are no footprints or tire prints around
the animal. The flesh on the head is removed with surgical
precision as well as other parts of the animal. The blood has
been drained and there is on occasion the trace of a drug
that appears to have sedated the animal as well as an
antibiotic..and what's really creepy is that the animals are
not isolated far from people and they never reported any
disturbance.

[David87]

The skeptics say it's wild dogs. Wild vampire dogs with surgical instruments.

[agentmoulder254]

And that can drive cars without tire marks :P

[William One Sac]

There is some pretty compelling evidence that humans are mutilated as well, including one case from South America where a mans prostrate was removed through his urethra. However, would imagine that if humans were being mutilated there would be a couple of scenarios possible.

Police would chalk it up to cult, serial killer, etc... murders. If someone saw a pattern on a global scale I imagine that that information would be censored to keep people from panicking. These scenarios are routinely debunked by skeptics, as are the cattle mutilation scenarios, which most skeptics will claim are just the result of natural predation.

I have to admit it does make sense that scavengers would eat the soft tissues of a dead cow.

There is also a theory that the cattle are mutilated by the government, that in order to get a very accurate idea of how radiation has dispersed in the midwest from the atomic bomb tests, and their effect on living things, is doing these mutilations to get random samplings of animals that eat grass. In my estimation though, if they really needed to do that they would just open up their own cattle ranches around the mid west and they could do all of the testing their hearts desired.

[David87]

Yes, but that would cost more money, and you know how the government is. I never heard that reason for the gov. to be doing the mutilations before though. It makes a little sense I guess.

On another note, a few years ago I believe, people in India were claiming to have been attacked by some kind of "monkey man" that had metallic claws and left scratches on there bodies, as well as strange lights that would come into their house at night and float around them, some times leaving burns. The doctors and skeptics said they were probably doing it all to themselves except for a few that believed their stories. Since I'm a believer in demons, my best guess is that those India people should probably quit worshiping statues that move and drink milk and other embodiements of their gods.

But it could have been somehow alien or government related.

[agentmoulder254]

But the precision from mutilations? I dont think scavengers could match that. Big Brother is a possible solution, plausible too.

[SkepticJo]

Talking about the govt.possibly being the source of the
cattle mutilations is interesting..I was thinking that in all
likelihood they would carry out a field examination of an
animal as opposed to carrying it back to some other
location; which would eliminate having to transport the
animal and solve the problem of what to do with the rest
of the body...just leave it there in the open to be acted
on by animals and the weather and further broken down.
But it seems so far fetched to think that if the govt. is in
fact involved that they would risk the possibility of being
observed or risk the possibility of being discovered...I mean
they don't have to do things that way at all...I'm sure the
govt. can afford to buy enough cows to satisfy it's need to
study any radiation effects if that is the case. I don't think
it is the govt. at all.

[agentmoulder254]

Well let's put it this way, unless you can come up with a simpler solution, than the government is certainly less farfetched than aliens.

[William One Sac]

Nice avatar AgentM.

I havent researched cattle mutilations in a long time, but if I recall correctly there were cases where the wounds were cauterized and bloodless. Before Agent M says "whatever" that means that the cuts were burned closed as they were being made, a case you would only expect with a laser or some other high temperature cutting device. I cannot cite any cases of this with any certainty however, but I do recall that was the case.

Using a laser to cut the wound would also mean there wouldnt be any bleeding. The question then becomes did the military or other branch of the government have this technology available when these cases of mutilations first started getting reported, somewhere in the early 70's I believe.

[agentmoulder254]

Wouldn't suprise me, go ask Bibal(Chappelle Reference)

[SkepticJo]

I saw part of some program tonight about UFO's and it
was a riot! HA! One of the shrinks on there said that he
thinks that people who claim to have been abducted by
UFO's or have seen aliens are having a kind of sleep
paralysis. And if that wasn't enough he thinks that even
people who have seen UFO's are just nuts.

[agentmoulder254]

You're being sarcastic, right? Those conclusions are very plausible for <I>most</I> (but not all) UFO cases.

[William One Sac]

But if even one alien abduction story, or even one ufo sighting is true, its the biggest story of human history.

[agentmoulder254]

True, but yet it is shunned upon by mass culture. For instance, today, my gullible friend and I were having a discussion about aliens, when a couple ignorant and rude asses butted in our conversation to say there is no such things. Now my friend, seeing as he believes whatever he reads and then forces his opinions upon others, decided to go on to the people about how a psychic on a show predicted it(which is the worst source of information, especially for convincing the skeptical.) But I just stopped talking, these people don't know the first thing about anything outside of expensive clothing.

[David87]

Also, note that strange objects have been appearing in the sky for 1,000's of years and can be found in the Bible, other relgious books, and almost all mythology. The same applies to human-like beings that aren't really human and some how interact with us. Taking this into consideration, the idea that UFO's and aliens were recent ideas invented in modern society and only found within our minds can be disproven unless you consider that our past and myths are actually fake or we place our modern ideas upon them. However, when you see what looks clearly like a flying saucer and people looking at it surprisingly in an ancient painting, it's kind of hard to claim that it's pottery.

[William One Sac]

I have to agree, citing a telepath as your source for information is not the best thing in the world.


Maybe thats why India Daily always gets such interesting stories, all of their reporters are telepaths. :|

[agentmoulder254]

The Bible has many references to UFOs, they had a special on the history channel about it! :)

[William One Sac]

How come there are no pictures in the Bible?

[agentmoulder254]

Because there was no Microsoft Paint, silly :P

seriously though, didn't the early Jewish people ban forms of art, or am I mistaken?

[William One Sac]

I thought they worshipped a bronze cow... &)

[agentmoulder254]

I thought it was a gold calf, whatever, close enough.

[SkepticJo]

I got my MUFON newsletter today and it had a small article that was familiar to something I had witnessed myself. Someone reported seeing a UFO and it hesitated as if waiting and was soon joined by another UFO and then they both took off at a high rate of speed. Around 1975 or so my husband & I lived in Columbus Georgia (interestingly as it goes with UFO's near a military post; in this case Ft. Benning Georgia) & he was getting in the car & I was standing there talking to him. I could see some bright reflection in the clouds & looked up to see a silver bell shaped UFO come out of the clouds into a clearing and then simply stop. (this was very high up of course.)I continued to watch in amazement and I could see another reflection coming through the clouds and as it appeared out of the clouds within a short distance of the first UFO (it too was a silver bell shaped UFO)they both took off at a tremendous burst of speed. I can't tell you how surprised I was to be able to witness that! :)

[William One Sac]

Wow! That is quite a sighting you had SkepticJo. I have never seen a disc shaped ufo, or anything close. But one night in 2001 I did see this thing I have drawn fly overhead, perfectly silent. It looked a bit smaller, but I dont think it was more than a few hundred feet high, although I really have no way to substantiate that.

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I watched it glide from directly overhead and then get lost in the ground light at about a 45 degree angle to the horizon. That was in NYC (Queens) around 2 months after the 9-11 attacks.

[SkepticJo]

Man, I mean William your sighting was pretty impressive! I can't really remember how I felt about UFO's prior to my first sighting (I have thus far seen 2)but my Dad remains a die hard skeptic. I told him that's because he has never seen one. Once he does he will change his thinking. I used to be just like him and needed concrete proof they existed and was doubtful but had an open mind about such things. He actually chuckles at me when I mention UFO's. I keep hoping he has his first sighting before too long!! Then I know he won't laugh about it again! :lol :{

[agentmoulder254]

Is it common for people in Queens to throw glowing di*dos?

[William One Sac]

No joke Agent M. I really saw that.

And you better watch your potty mouth.

[agentmoulder254]

Fine...

[:D Smilee :D]

OOOO
moulder got sunned!!!!
hehe
yeah i think i might have said this already but i thought i say a UFO once, my mom pulled off to teh side of the road and we stared and stared and then we saw snoopy on it and realised it was a blimp.
oops lol

[William One Sac]

Now whatever your name is, get ready for the big surprise. I just renewed the domain, so theeyesbehind.com will be around for at least another year! 8D

[agentmoulder254]

Does this thing cost money?

[William One Sac]

But of course. An operation like this one can run into the millions. 8D

[William One Sac]

Over the course of millions of years...

[David87]

When I get rich, I'll send you money.

[:D Smilee :D]

uh! u pay money to talk to moulder?
lol jp:)

[William One Sac]

I know, tell me about it. :{




:lol