Agentmoulder I dont get you...

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

No offence dude, but I have a few concerns.

For one, Iv'e seen you post quite a bit on how Populer Kids are dumb, and that they only like rap, and that rap sucks, well yes rap does suck, but then you say they only like music for the beat, and not the vocals, where as rap is all about vocals, and rarely, if ever has a real beat to it (other than old school).

And then you say you don't like those popular kids because they listen to songs like "The Anthem", where as it's "A song for losers only", and by saying that your contradicting EVERYTHING that you have said in the past AND the vocals to that particular song. Also, the song sucks, and Good charlotte suck, they are wannabe punks, they are pop-masters in discuise.

My final point being that you proclaim yourself a nerd, or a geek or a loser or whatever. Then you talk about all these friends you have, and that they have guns and stuff, and that these chicks are after you.

Man, your worse than the bible, which was the biggest pile of contradicting crap I've ever.... half read. (Give me a break it's boring)

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST YOU SAY YOUR NOT CRAZY!

I think you are my friend, I think you are....


*evil laugh* muahahahahahahahahahaha.... muahaha.... muahaha... muahahah *cough... choke* hah- *splutter*

[William One Sac]

Of course hes crazy! We all are. Yeah, I deont really like rap, but I dont consider myself a geek either.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Tell me about it rap is CRAP.

I like HEAVY, and yeh I'll admit it: A little bit of Funk!

PLAY THAT FUNKY MUSIC WHITE BOY!

[agentmoulder254]

Vocals and lyrics are two completely different things. Lyrics are the words WRITTEN to the songs and have the meaning in them and vocal is the pronounciation. I am saying that they don't even care about the lyrics. The song The Anthem is meant for losers, but because popular people don't care about lyrics they like the song. I really only have two real friends and you must have misread about the guns, those weren't my friends they were Chelsea's enemies. And I have one girlfriend, no chicks are after me. I don't even know where you base that on. And trust me I am crazy, when someone keeps repeating the phrase all in capitals, I AM NOT CRAZY, that usually means they are. Maybe you just have to see me do it because my eyelid moves forward, but my other one stays, it looks truly insane. I guess I am your friend, but I don't really know much about you. P.S. I know you don't like the Bible, but I center my life around it, so never curse it off again. And plus, if you're Jewish, than you have to know the first half of the Bible, The Pentateuch.

[JAMisterios]

<QUOTE>Man, your worse than the bible, which was the biggest pile of contradicting **** I've ever.... half read. (Give me a break it's boring)..</QUOTE>


That statement made me lose all respect for you even before I got to know you. You offended my beliefs. If you do not believe in God, then don't. But don't offened those of us that do. Please refrain from making further posts like this.

Willie, can you moderate any offensive material like this from now on. Or at least make me a mod to do so.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

I did not say I do not believe in God, the bible is bull, and I will not take that back, I find it terrifying that people still "center their lives around it" - it condradicts it's own teachings.

I do believe in a hgiher being, I'd like that in the open, but for anyone to think jesus was the son of that being, well they are just stupid, I'm not saying I don't like jesus, I happen to hear that he was quite a nice person, and I have no doubt in my mind that he was.

My real point being that I would like you to find exactlly religion has done apart from kill people, cause pain and destruction, do you think the world trade center wuld have been destoryed if there wasn't religion? Do you think hitler would have invaded poland and killed the Jews if it wasn't for religion? Do you think that any of the major wars, terrorist attacks of political disputes and conflicts would have happened if it wasn't for religion?

My answer: NO. None of those horrible and disaterous things would have happened if it wasn't for religion. In fact if there was no such thing as religion, the world would be as close to a utopia as it would ever be.

My point is that religion was created, because the human race could not handle the thaught of no life after death, they could not handle the thaught of not being the center of everything. And quite frankly I believe people who support religion, support every attrocity it has ever been packaged with, and it discusts me.

I believe there is is a higher being, a "God" if you will, the world would not exist without one. But this being would HAVE to be indapendant of time AND matter. That is the only way in which the universe would work.

So you loose respect for me for bad-mouthing the bible? I loose respect for you for basing your life on the single most blood soaked thing on this entire planet, and everytime you pick it up to read it, blood the need never have been spilled tranfers straight to your hands.

I don't care about anything in the bible, anything anoyone says. Because how could anyone POSSIBLEY comprahend, or even begin to understand the being that created the universe, it just isn't possible, and the sad thing is so many lives are lost and wasted, on trying to understand a concept that the human mind could not grasp.

[agentmoulder254]

You are right to say the only reason wars start is religion, but you should go into more detail. The concept of faith, hope, and love didn't start wars, it was the concept that people start churches and cathedrals. There is no doubt in my mind that without a structured belief, not all of the wars would have been fought. If everyone just believed what they wanted to believe and didn't go making laws on it, then the world would be a better place. Take for example The Society of Friends, they do not have religious buildings, ceremonies, or religious teachers, and they haven't had any wars against them. In fact, just yesterday I was thinking of becoming a Quaker, well as soon as I move out. I still don't exactly believe everything in the Bible as literal as what my religion has told me and I don't believe that the religion should practice some of what they do. I didn't say that I lost your respect, I just think that you should never humiliate a person by mocking what they spend a lot of their time trying to grasp and understand. That's like if I were to burn the only alien body found before the secret government is put on trial. Speaking of aliens, I think I will use that for another example, a lot of people believe what they want to believe about aliens, but none have made it into ceremonies. Tell me how many wars were about aliens, none, well not that we know of at least. P.S. Now it probably will stop what happened in the World Trade Center because without a central religion not everybody there would believe the more you kill the closer you are to heaven and some might not do it. Also, I think the reason Hitler hated the Jews was because he believed that it was there faults that WWI was lost and the fact that they were immigrating and taking all of the good jobs. He was just a little bit harsher than GWB when it comes to immigrants.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Agent you get me all wrong I didn't say i lost respect for you, I was talking to JA, but I didn't mean it anyways i was only making a point.

When I say that people waste their time trying to understand, it's because it is ACTUALLY impossible to understand.

Ok heres an experiment, and a good example of what I mean: Think of all the directions possible, basically you have 360 degrees, times 360 degrees for a 3 dimensional arc. Now I want you, to try and think of ANOTHER direction to go in. A completely new one. The human mind cant POSSIBLY do it, because to the human mind such a thing is physically impossible, but how do we know that when we our bound by our own rules. Direction is completely relative to time and matter, matter has direction, time allows matter to use direction.

Heres another: Try and think of a way to get somewhere, without the use of time, lets say that time as stopped, there is no longer time, all there is is matter, matter being the thing that causes the physicall bounds of this universe. But it isn't possible, oyu can't get MATTER from point A to point B without TIME. Because yet again, TIME and MATTER are completely relative.

My point being that time and matter ARE the 2 basic elements of this universe. But the universe of which the higher being would exist, would be indapendant from BOTH time and matter. The human brain, will only allow us to concieve time and matter, and therefor we cannot understand a higher being, at least not when we are alive.

I'd really like to add that i do not want any hard feelings with anyone.

[agentmoulder254]

This reminds me of that movie, "Hyper Cube 2." It is about a cube with four dimensions: length, width, volume, and time. It was a cool movie and it was kind of confusing, but it was very good.

[David87]

First off, Jewboy and Agentmoulder, you're both crazy, weird, and maybe ignorrent, but I'm not going to hold it against you or come down on you harshly. Let me just set you straight here. For one thing, I happen to like rap music, but that's just me because I like almost all music. I find that people who don't like rap music generally fit into one of three catagories. One, they didn't grow up around rap, it doesn't fit their taste, it's just not their thing - that's understandable. Then there's two - they stereotype all rap music as being the mainstream gangsta rap that supports drugs, sex, and violence. Then there's people who are racists and don't even know it because they see rap as being an all balck thing and a celebration of "blackness". They are the same people that always make fun of white rappers and say that there must be something wrong with a white person for them to like rap, because whether they realise it or not, as soon as you say to yourself that white people should always be this way and listen to this music and black people should be this way and listen to this music, then you've essentially becom a racist.
Second, I'm a firm supporter of the Bible and I try my best to build my life around it. Yes, there are contridictions in the Bible, but most of these come from the switch between the old ways and the new ways with the Old and New Testaments, and also from people's intrerpretations of the Bible. There's millions of different ways the Bible can be interpretted and doing so certain ways decreases the amount of contradictions that people find in the Bible drastically. If you say that your interpretation of the Bible is the only right one then you're being pretty egocentric and should be more open minded.
Finally, religion is not at the roots of all wars. Greed, lust, and the idea that I'm right and you're wrong are the things that cause wars. Have a great many wars been involved with religious beliefs? Yes, but if you look at most religions you find that many religions are basically peaceful, and it was individual people that came into power and wove their own ideas into their religion or used their religion as a reason for going to war that have caused most wars. That's all I have to say for now.

[agentmoulder254]

I think that I don't like rap because, the fact I didn't grow up around it and don't know the experiences, and the fact that it does support drugs and sex. I say that white people should listen to this and vise versa, I said that people I know don't stress the lyrics of the song, only the rhythm, which in my opinion overlooks the entire song. I know that most popular people don't understand what most rappers are talking about in there personal lives. That would be like saying a rich kid knows what it's like to starve. I have nothing against rappers who don't objectify women or give drugs a positive image, or popstars who don't objectify women or give drugs a positive image, or rockstars who don't objectify women or give drugs a positive image.

[kaeight420]

Way to go Jewboy!!! Someone on this website actually has a little something called <B>COMMON SENSE</B>. I have always thought that if you want to find some of the most gullible people on Earth that you should go to a local church. As for Jam, people have a right to express their opinions, ****in' deal with it.

[agentmoulder254]

When Subrosa was arguing with us you didn't let him express his free rights, nor did I. When it is something that you need to fight for you don't f***'in deal with it so you shouldn't even talk. At least I am being completely honest about this.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Id like to say there isn't a person on this earth who isn't racist. You might think that your a good person, you can handle other people beliefs, looks and culture.

But you notice it, as soon as you notice it, your racist.

As soon as you generalise your a racist.

As soon as you say RACIST you are a racist, if you trully wern't racist, you wouldn't even concieve the meaning of race.

I have a lot friends with different backgrounds, many different races. They are all my friends, and I like them just as much as a friend from the same race.

But the fact of the matter is I'm racist, and I wont try to deny it like some people.

When i see yet another Aboringinal trashing a car, or passing out drunk, I think to myself "Why don't i ever see white people doing that? Even though I see it done almost every day?" When I see another asian gang viciously kill someone in the street, I think to myself the same thing.

I make myself sick, when I think I must be some kind of horrible person to believe that the way people act has something to do with race.

But when I look deep down, it's all about what you see as a child that pre-programs you. When you see a different drunk and violent Aboriginal every day, when you see a different Asian gang every day, you grow up relating certian types of people to certian things.

We are all racist, we can't help it, I wish we could, but the simple fact is we can't.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Id like to say there isn't a person on this earth who isn't racist. You might think that your a good person, you can handle other people beliefs, looks and culture.

But you notice it, as soon as you notice it, your racist.

As soon as you generalise your a racist.

As soon as you say RACIST you are a racist, if you trully wern't racist, you wouldn't even concieve the meaning of race.

I have a lot friends with different backgrounds, many different races. They are all my friends, and I like them just as much as a friend from the same race.

But the fact of the matter is I'm racist, and I wont try to deny it like some people.

When i see yet another Aboringinal trashing a car, or passing out drunk, I think to myself "Why don't i ever see white people doing that? Even though I see it done almost every day?" When I see another asian gang viciously kill someone in the street, I think to myself the same thing.

I make myself sick, when I think I must be some kind of horrible person to believe that the way people act has something to do with race.

But when I look deep down, it's all about what you see as a child that pre-programs you. When you see a different drunk and violent Aboriginal every day, when you see a different Asian gang every day, you grow up relating certian types of people to certian things.

We are all racist, we can't help it, I wish we could, but the simple fact is we can't.

I'd like too add YES i make fun of white rapist's. Because rap was created by the african americans, and white people just look stupid doing it. It's not a steriotype, it's a fact. If you are going to try and take rap away from the modern negro culture than you a more a racist than anyone here my friend.

David go to www.dictionary.com please and look up the word LUST, please use a word for it's primary meaning next time.

YES all wars are a product of religion, and usually religion has a heavier involvment than any other factor, go and find a war not envloving religion, you wont, and if you just come up with one I'll research the topic (which you obviously wouldn't have) and prove you wrong.

[David87]

I never said I wasn't racist. I agree that everyone has racism in them but only because we live in a society that emphasisis the differences and stereotypes on people. Excepting that people are different and noticing those differences based on their race isn't racism, it's being factual and realistic. Also, I'm sorry. I meant to say that wars are caused by lust, fear, and the idea that I'm right and you're wrong. Lust can mean more than intense sexual craving although that's its main meaning and I intend to use it as being any intense craving, I just forgot to add fear. As far as religion having been involved in every war, take away religion and see if wars still happen. It would still happen because religion doesn't create the destructive feelings and desires that are in every person. Don't tell me that atheist have never killed or fought; think about it. All religion does in the case of wars is 1. create conflict and 2. give people a way to justify conflict and murder. Without religion people would still have conflict and still find ways to justify their actions because that's what people do.
P.S. Yes, churches are filled gullible and foolish people. I know, I go to church sometimes, but that gives none of you the right to attack churches. Agent moulder, you're making some sense right now. Everyone has the right to speak their mind but people should be able to fight for their views and not feel like their being oppressed. However, going by that view, everyone has the right to say anything they want to say, which would mean a lot of offensive things would be said. Furthermore, everything is offensive to someone, so to be totally honest either everyone has to be quiet or everyone is allowed to say whatever they want. Since we obviously can't do either, each subculture and society as a whole decides what is allowed to be said and what isn't. The problem here seems to be making that decision but if you get angry about it and cloud you're judgement, you only make it more difficult and will probably hurt and offend others more.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

i have to agree with david - conflit has about as much chance of ending as i have in a handicap match agvainst jackie chan and jet li.

My point being without religion, i good estimate that the worlds population would be at leat 30 - 50 percent larger, and those lives would not be wasted away worshiping things we know nothing about.

[David87]

Thankyou Jewboy, I'm glad you're being truthful, but I myself believe I know some things of God and have had contact with the Holy Spirit as I know it so I will go on believing what I believe in and hope that I'm right, because if I'm not my whole life will be a waste. More importantly, there must at least be an afterlife, because if not that, then no one's life has meaning and all is wasted because eventually we will all die and there will be nothing left of humanity unless some part of us carries on into the future and into another world.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Afterlife, no one can be sure, but thats why religion was created, it's a comfort zone for those too scared to believe that there is a possibility they don't get to exist forever.

There are 2 things in the universe that are trully infinate, space and death.

I find it upsetting that people would find life pointless if there is no afterlife, if there was no afterlife, wouldn't that be quite the opposite? Wouldn't it make human life all the more precious?

And now don't you see my point, billions of lives lost a wasted, and we dont even know if there is anything more than this, how can that not be overwhelmingly sad.

About athiests in religious wars, of course there has been, you do not look at the cause of war when your country is in peril. But tell me who is braver, the person who dies for their country knowing they will go to god, or the one who dies for their country knowing they will no longer exist, never again to think, feel or hear?

[David87]

I see your point. However, the preciousness of life does not give it meaning. If a time ever comes when there is NO remains of human life, no humans, no artifacts, no memory, then nothing any human will have ever done will have any meaning because the effects of our lives will no longer be there. Eternity is a comforting idea and a man who believes that's where he goes when he dies will feel safe in death, but if it is possible that the individual life and human life as a whole can be erased from history, then we should be pursuing immortallity instead of living a good life. Because who would ever say that you lived a good life and what effect would your life have on the future if your entire memory, effect, and subtance were erased from existance. I think it is very sad if there's no afterlife, no matter how you look at it.

[kaeight420]

Ok, fine. But I still think religion is a waste of time. Really, the Catholic Schools are beating religion into our brains. If we don't worship God we are punished. I don't know about you, but I don't think you should get a detention just because you don't pray. That's assanine. Most of you people have been brainwashed by the world you live in to love and serve god. But I was born with something called common sense that I inherited from my mom. Therefore, it does not make sense.

[David87]

I wasn't brain washed. I was washed in the blood of Jesus and the fire of the Holy Spirit, but that's the preacher in me talking.

[kaeight420]

Ok, I was washed in the fires of hell! Just kidden.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

The concept of hell is disturbing also.

What kind of almighty father would send ANYONE to eternal pain? I don't care if you killed 10 times as many people as adof hitler using only papercuts, NO ONE deserves that.

The catholic religion is the most widely believed religion because of that one thing, because they use hell as a way to scare people into believe what they beleive in, it's sick, twisted and discusting, it has nothing to do with hope or faith, or any of that bull, the catholic religion EXTORTS people beleif.

[kaeight420]

See, it's brain washing and it's communist. So your choices are either a.) honor god or b.) go to hell.
I think I'll go to hell, thank you very much.

[kaeight420]

The words to this song is kinda christian-like, but the song is awesome.
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who cares
Your own personal Jesus
Someone to hear your prayers
Someone who's there

Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer

Take second best
Put me to the test
Things on your chest
You need to confess
I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver

Reach out and touch faith
Reach out and touch faith

Your own personal Jesus...

Feeling unknown
And you're all alone
Flesh and bone
By the telephone
Lift up the receiver
I'll make you a believer

I will deliver
You know I'm a forgiver

Reach out and touch faith

Your own personal Jesus...

Reach out and touch faith

Depeche Mode
Personal Jesus

That band is awesome. My mom said when she was younger a friend of hers started preaching that on a bridge. lol.

[David87]

I'm not afraid of Hell, even though I'm a believer. The demons once told me in a dream that they were afraid of me. One good point about Hell though, if someone's idea of a good time is raping little children, then at least they won't be in heaven to bother those of us that go there. So yeah, if Hell is like we think it is, then it's a pretty harsh rejection of those outside the God-created norm. If I ever die and go to Hell, I'll come back and tell you.

[kaeight420]

I don't think your aloud though. According to the Bible (no matter how much I try to avoid church when we are in school they make us go) someone tried that and they weren't aloud. And that brings me to another conclusion. There are three places you can go: heaven, hell, or purgatory. If so, then what are ghosts? Why are they here wondering the Earth as they have been for so many years? If the Catholic faith is correct, shouldn't they be in one of the three places of afterlife? That's another reason I think religion is crap.

[agentmoulder254]

First off, I am against the Catholic school infringement policy, although I am Catholic. Second, I agree with David, hell is just so that people as guilty as Hitler don't wreak havoc on us. Third off, I am Christian because I believe that a man named Jesus once came and did miraculous things in the name of God and not for pride. Finally, I am comforted that my beliefs as a Catholic, even if there is no afterlife, will help to make the world a better place, no matter how corny it sounds. And that wars aren't started ever with good intentions I can name the first war that comes to my head and it has nothing to do with religion, The French and Indian War, of how about The War of 1812, or what about the Revolutionary War, not to mention the Civil War, I could go on.

[kaeight420]

Uh, jackass, the Civil War started on good intentions. It DID start because of the BELIEF that slavery was wrong. So get your facts straight.

[kaeight420]

Oh yeh, and I just remembered that the Great Awakening made the colonists realize their worth and started the Revolutionary War.

[agentmoulder254]

The Great Awakening made them realize worth, it didn't effect their hate against Britian.

[kaeight420]

It helped. And if they didn't realize their worth, then they probly would have put up with the British crap.

[agentmoulder254]

Yeah, but it the war wasn't for religion, which proves my point. Just because they realized something that helped start a war doesn't mean that started the war. If say, France started to poison us, and we didn't notice it until we found scientific advances, does that mean the war was fought for scientific knowledge. NO.

[kaeight420]

It wasn't fought for it was fought because of. I also just thought of the Holy Wars. The Isrealis and the Palestinians are fighting over land because they believe that's the land that Jesus lived in.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

God makes us, God is good, therefor we are the way God want's us.

If someones idea of fun is raping children is fun, it's pretty obvious they are sick in the head, phsycosis in one way or the other, but god made them that way, why would he send them to hell for that? And if some physico kills people on earth and then dies, seeing as that person has left the limitations of the human brain behind, and can reach to the skys with the power of their soul, then they will relise the implications of their actions, besides what bad can someone do once they are dead?

If you catholics honestly think it's a good idea to punish someone FOREVER (do you relise the implications of that???) For something they did in a peroid of 110 - 120 years MAX (most likely around 70 - 80). Then you are the ones who are in need of help.

What about those who are screwed up because of bad families, what if their parents taught them that chainsaw maccasares are a good idea. And what if it wasn't their parent's fault, because their parents thaught THEM that.

You see how everything works? We are born blank slates, the way we turn out is a result of what we experience, and we have no REAL controll over those experiences. We can't help it if we are we are good or evil, and in reality no one can judge us, not man, and not some god.

Give me 20 days and 500 cups of coffee, i can take everything from that stupid book and make a complete joke of it, because thats what it is, a joke, there are not SOME contradictions, there are MANY. And those that don't contradict themselfs, have complete disregard for the human essence. The bible tries to make everything black and white, we are talking about the most complex creatures on this planet, and it tries to explain them in Black and F**king White.

Humans are a mix of moral and instinct, they cannot be explained by a 2000 year old puddle of dribble.

Thou shalt not steal (to be read as "Thou shal die of starvation" for the poor)

Thou shalt no kill - What happens if someones asks you to kill them? What happens if they have a bullet in their liver and are bleeding slowly to death? Can't someone end that pain?

Like I said, I'm sure Jesus was a good guy, but he did not heal people miraculasly, he didn't turn a snack into a feast, he didn't turn water into wine and he sure as hell didn't fix peoples eyes.

[kaeight420]

See, he makes a point. So will you listen to him, at least!?!

[LordSubrosa]

There was a parable that Christ spoke of concerning a field of wheat which the enemy had sown with thorns. The thorns and the wheat sprung up together as you have both good and evil in you...but the thorns "the evil" will be seperated from you and your essence of good. Who shall carry rage into the heavens that all wrong doing is no longer.
What evil is there being all evil shall be cast aside? Where is the sting of death when it has been reduced to nothing...this is a game, a learning lesson, a place to sculpt the soul. If there be a hell it is to refine the soul like silver, and the pains thereof shall be of the spirit that shall be likened like flames that burn the crude into refinement.
Morality is a code of conduct and differs with region. Nature tells us mankind is ready for childbearing earlier then his said laws...sin or righteousness all comes down to good and evil and all else is hogwash.
God gave no reason for us to be ashamed, man assumed he had but in fact God had questioned even thus after the forbidden was partaken of.
The God which they have preached, is not the God that is. Although the root of his essence is still there. Creator exists amongst all people and has been revealed unto all people...yet people still play the part of "IT IS MY GOD AND I AM NOT GOING TO SHARE HIM"
And you are wrong, politics has caused every war...not religion. Though the false shepards have used religion to convince people to war for their politics. Do you blame everyone of a single race when you encounter one of a differing race in a moment of conflict...yet you blame God for the wrongs of others...Bigot I say.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

No actually Religion caused a hell of a lot more wars than politics... Brainless 10 year old I'd say. Next time at least try to come off as intelligent.

I already said I'm not proud of being racist, but what do you expect someone to believe when they have seen this race doing the wrong thing, and this race doing the right, expecially if you have been a child watching this, it's called instinct, when we see someone/something doing something potenially dangerous, and then see it a lot, we are going to be cautious of that someone/something are we not?

In fact maybe you should read a little more, and then take a second or to to understand it, I'm sure someone like you has PLENTY of spare time for it.

[agentmoulder254]

I know it sounds wierd, but I am 100% with Subrosa. The fight we had between science and religion is behind me now, and I feel comfortable to be his ally in this battle of words.

[kaeight420]

Hey, I thought Subrosa was normal. But he's just as bad as he was before. Well, he's Father Subrosa again. He's just as bad as a preist. God does not make sense, I don't know where all this belief in a god came from. No higher power does exist, and anyone who thinks one does is just lacking common sense and knowledge.

[David87]

You're lacking sensitivity and understanding. What has life done to you anyway, you and Jewboy both seem to have something personal against God, correct me if I am wrong.

[David87]

The existance of a high superior being such as God is entirely possible. I will leave it up to others to decide for themselves if it's probable.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

I stated several times, several being a nice way of saying a LOT, that i DO believe in a higher being, and do not debate ones existance what-so-ever.

I have nothing personal against god, you are yet another individual who has replied without even reading what I have said, i have something against RELIGION, for the 10th time.

NOT God.

NOT Catholics.

NOT Jews.

NOT Prodestants, Anglicans, Mormans, or the cult that worships the God of processed cheese.

I don't like RELIGION as a whole.

All it does is cause pain, death, carnage, big booms, and the total waste of millions of human lives.

YES there is a higher being.

NO there is no way possible to comrahend a being on a different plane of existance.

WHY frickin bother.

Religion has never done ONE BIT OF GOOD.

[David87]

Thankyou for correcting me. That is all I asked for, and I did read your posts, I was just wondering. I am against people in general but the Bible teaches me to love them so I will try. I often comment that if it weren't for Christianity, I would probably be a mass murderer because I am fairly psychopathic and my faith is one of the few things that keeps that in check. There's one good point for religion. Now I would like to argue with you more but it seems you're pretty stead fast in your beliefs so I won't try too much. Have a nice day :)

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

It's not your religion that keeps you in check, it's the fact you have something to lifve for, and you don't want to throw you life away, who would?

If I had nothing to live for I wouldn't think twice of going postal on the mafia or the taliban or something, I'd wanna go out with a bang, and rid the world of some of the worst.

Looks like we have something in common when it comes to people.


"We could wipe out all the scum in the world, but their would be no on left." - Jewboy, 1999.

[agentmoulder254]

Lay off him, what do you know of his motives. You act as if you are sure of everything, well not you, me, or anybody living today knows everything.

[Jewboy-Soapurb]

Difficult to Lay Off when your not laying on.

[agentmoulder254]

Cause of the truce, i wont say what i have to say right now