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William One Sac
03-23-2007, 02:19 PM
More evidence is now "surfacing" to suggest that our distant friends were able to survive more inhospitable enviornments, by keeping warm by burrowing. Hmmm.....

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/palaeo/oryctodromeus210307.jpg



Palaeontologists have found the remains of small dinosaurs that made their home in a burrow, a finding that suggests dinosaurs could exploit a much wider habitat than thought.

Fossilised bones and the dinosaurs' underground den were found in the US state of Montana.

Researchers have named the dinosaurs Oryctodromeus cubicularis, a mix of Greek and Latin that means "digging runner of the lair".

The burrow's soil has been dated to the mid-Cretaceous, a hothouse period that ran from about 135-115 million years ago.

" the first trace and body fossil evidence of burrowing behaviour in a dinosaur," the trio of US and Japanese researchers say.

Their paper appears in the [I]Proceedings of the Royal Society B (http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/link.asp?id=8byr72qg7nag), a journal of the UK's Royal Society (http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/).

The burrow, long filled with sediment, comprises a sloping, sinuous tunnel more than 2 metres long and about 70 centimetres wide, and is somewhat similar to holes made today by striped hyenas and puffins.

It ends in a chamber, where the skeletal remains of an adult and two juveniles were found.

Their snout, shoulder girdle and pelvis have the telltale shape of bones found in animals capable of gouging out and shifting soil.

Based on the preserved vertebrae, the adult would measure around 2.1 metres long, with a weight of 22-32 kilograms, which made it small on the dinosaur scale.

The authors, led by Assistant Professor David Varricchio of Montana State University (http://www.montana.edu/), say burrowing would help small dinosaurs survive in extreme climates.

Unlike mammals, reptiles cannot regulate their own body temperature. Thus, in deserts, a burrow would provide shelter from extreme heat, while in polar regions and chilly mountains, it would preserve warmth.

The burrowers may have survived, at least for a while, the twilight of the dinosaurs, the authors say.

The prevailing theory is that this happened around 65 million years ago, when a massive asteroid struck the Earth. That kicked up a thick veil of dust and ash that cooled the planet, killing off the kinds of vegetation on which the dinosaurs depended.

The end of the Cretaceous bequeathed the planet to avian, or bird-like, dinosaurs and other species that either thrived without the old predators around or found a niche in a suddenly-changed climate.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2007/1877565.htm


Dinosaurs burrowing to keep warm. Burrowing? What else are they going to tell us next?

antarrishu
03-23-2007, 11:36 PM
Interesting news...I suppose they could have survived on earthworms, cockroaches,roots and such. If they did manage to survive the past cataclysms, then is it also possible that they still inherit a portion of our planet? Could they be so adapted to living under ground that they still live there today? 65 million years, I cannot even begin to imagine how advanced they could have become. Ok here it is I CHALLENGE ANY AND ALL REPTOID BEINGS to come on our humble site and tell their story. This is a safe enviroment for exchange. The time is right for you to tell your story. And we are the perfect and trusting audience. Thankyou in advance, Rishu

antarrishu
03-23-2007, 11:53 PM
You know I love any species that will burrow and protect it's young like that.

William One Sac
03-24-2007, 12:42 AM
These things were like 6 or 7 feet tall. How the hell were they digging tunnels without shovels? :cool:

antarrishu
03-26-2007, 11:09 PM
teeth and claws?
I can't believe others have not jumped in on this thread...

William One Sac
03-27-2007, 11:10 AM
What the article fails to mention, is that some mammakls have adopted the trait of borrowing, including mammals that lay eggs, ie. Mr. platypus. I know there is some circumstantial evidence claimings dinosaurs were cold blooded. Some very good proof at that. But I can't help but wonder if they were all cold blooded. At some point, according to evolution, the survivors must have become warm blooded? Right? We're all descended from tadpoles, righhhht?

antarrishu
03-27-2007, 10:39 PM
I have to say, that if there was a deep freeze going on, even the coldest blood would have to find shelter and warmth. Again what interests me is the level of intelligence the animal had to burrow its self and babies. But remember the animals were found dead.Did they die during the big freeze or sometime after.There are alot of questions that arise from this discovery. And one of the things I would love to see is clonning of the dinosaurs. OH BTW Did you see the pictures of the 15% human sheep? Oh god it really disturbs me, thats really really wrong.Does the sheep deserve the basic human rights? I say absolutely!The idots cry about using embryonic stem cells, yet "They" can play god with 15% human beings and thats alot more human and conscious than an embryonic human tadpole. Twisted world.

antarrishu
03-27-2007, 10:47 PM
One of the very first things on the bush agenda was to stop the millon dollar project that gave birthcontroll to places like Africa, and any other 3rd world country that was in need. And then they watched and probably aided in the total anhilation of those same countries, stood by as rape and maiming and unspeakable atrocities were are are being perpetuated on those same people now spawing ****ed up babies.They took the birth controll for RWchristian funda-mentals and yet slaughter and maheim is ok according to god on high. Now bush is drinking and confined to the second wing of the white house? Hmmm you know never give up, things can turn around.

antarrishu
03-27-2007, 10:50 PM
I said that last ramble because it pisses me off that we could have such a great planet going on here, and there are so many marvelous discoveries to be made, and yet it is not important to the frickin supposed leaders.Just follow the story of this latest find and watch it dissapear.

RabidChihuahua
03-28-2007, 08:34 AM
I often wish I could burrow a home underground and just build my own little hidden place from the idiocy that is our world. It wouldn't surprise me if that was a valid recourse to some individuals in the distant past.....
It will be interesting to see where this leads.


and don't get me started on bush.... He annoys me to no end.

this guy's site disturbs me about bush http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

Can't say I disagree with him.;)