look at what i found

[nailitper]

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=S7rRXJ87oPo

[freemasonz]

I am a conspiracy theorist!!!! I believe the fix is in, and there are mysterious forces acting against our best intrests in favor of their own. Four planes fell out of the sky on 9/11/01. That being said, ask yourself why, not how, read your history, this isn't the first time we've sucker punched ourselfs to whip the sheep into a bloodlust frenzy, the last time was December 7th, 1941. Franklin Delano Roosevelt allowed the Japanese navy to decimate a bunch of outdated WWI era warships and kill 2000 soldiers, to allow us to fight in two theaters of war, Europe and the South Pacific. This is no different, you honestly expect anyone to buy that the american public would have allowed their congressman to stay in office while american troops paved the way for a Kazakstani pipline through Afganstan: NO! However, roll out the beard, have him sit in front of a rock with an AK-47, condemn the US as "crusaders" and listen as he says we had it comming and was all too happy to plan the attacks, and VOILA, you have you have convinced every knuckledragger in this country that we gotta go en there and "GITTER DUN!!!"

[nailitper]

the why has already been responded , about the how , there are too many answer to the how´s , that need too be seperated. the fear strategy , and public manipulation are nothing new , the same strategy has recently been used again , the two failed , the coup to hugo chavez , and the "kidnaped" british soldiers by iran , and there will be future tries , the media are preparing another new cold war to "entertain" the public , so that the war pigs can move freely with their acts

[freemasonz]

I have to respectfully disagree with you, the "why" hasn't been fully divulged. The how is easy, we never thought in a million years that they'd use commercial airplanes to do this. Marytrdom is something that we watched on the evening news, and never in our back yard. Even the kooks that blew up the government building in Oklahoma, drove off and had a shread of self preservation in their bodies.

[nailitper]

"we never thought in a million years that they'd use commercial airplanes to do this" who said they used commercial airplanes on NY? what if not? what if there were no planes , missiles(like some claim) , what if it was all tv fakery

[William One Sac]

Then how do you explain the eyewitnesses on the ground who watched the planes fly into the towers?

[nailitper]

whatch this eyewitness compilation i made
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Uacym09FDGo
on NY there were planes flying at a low altitude near the towers , and that was what many eyewitness tougth that hit te towers , there are eyewitness that just saw the towers explode , and then there were the actors that so detailedly explained what type of plane was , from were it came etc , already one of those "eyewitness" has been caugth playing the role of two fantasised characters see this http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZkDmNbZPno
and did you knew that the 9/11 coverage was not live see this http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=EDModrMBQ3k the media was the principal weapon on this false attack , if you go to loose change forum and start asking questions about the no plane theorie there it will be considered blasfemy , and you will be attacked , if you start presenting facts about this theorie they will try to avoid it at all costs , ridicularize you or banne you like dylan banned me from there , no one wants to touch this subject not popular mechanics , or those 9/11 debunking sites , they just ignore you , you have 9/11 octopus and september clues videos on youtube that explain well the tv fakery that was done on 9/11

here are some videos that explain part of it:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=IeIVD5wT4KE
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=NPzz03yzwlY
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=XtWtO65RPJw

and ive found more problems on the videos of the second plane hitting the tower like in footage that you dont see the plane hitting the tower cause its been filmed on the other side of the tower , you only can see thee exploison , those videos were not edited , cause the sky has the right color , and there are hellicopters circulating the towers , but on the footage that you can see the plane hitting the 2 tower the sky is gray , and there are no helicopters were they were supose to show up , im going to make the videos and upload them , when i have the time
i found this while i was searching for anomalies on footage from the tv stations
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=1wwszPF888M

[freemasonz]

That's a hell of a lot of subversive tap dancing to cover up a missle attack. When you could "allow" Muslim fundamentalists to train in country, and carry out an attack of martyrdom. Your theories would be easier to swallow if there weren't so many eyewitnesses and home video of a plane flying into the building. Now, on the other hand, the Pentagon attack is sketchy, the lack of video especially with a camera pointed at the point of impact, the lack of wreckage in corolation to the amout of surface dammage the mass confiscation of surrounding video footage from nearby businesses. I could buy a missile attack there.

[nailitper]

i never told that a missile was launched at the towers , simply there was no plane just a explosion, the plane was put on the video , in a poor CGI quality work were the sky served as a blue screen , you probably didnt even watched the videos , there are alot of problems with the videos , like the plane path in some videos contradicts the path on other videos, or parts of thte plane disapeiring or turning invisible like this example http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy3hg4MMyqQ , dont you think that its strange that on a sunny day the sun is hitting the plane surface but the plane continuos to be black and then on others is white , the color of the sky on the varius videos is radicaly diferent. here is a video that clearly shows a jetfigther, unlike the comercial planes videos that show a thing that has nothing to do with a boeing737 http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=LdIDX8sprsw , the bridge changing position http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=1wwszPF888M , and many other problems , like in some videos you can hear the loud sound of the plane engines , and in other no , and witness saying that they didnt heard nothing just the exploison , about the witness there were like i said before planes flying at low altitude and planes circulating the towers , most peolpe saw those planes and tought that were those that impacted on the towers , this is by far the theorie that has more proof that any other
heres a example of a CGI plane http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=A3wHZFHx9vc
and to my surprise there are the dogs of dylan that think that the comercial planes were swaped by other modified planes that before hitting the towers fired a missile against the towers , this is stupid , its an example of how the storie of loose change was created just to keep them to try to catch their own tails while on the other side popular mechanics keeps debunking loose strawman teories , keping attentions away from this theorie that has no suport from anyone and will never have.

sorry for this testament

[freemasonz]

Never, ever, be sorry for a stance taken or an opinion given. If anything, I'm simply saying, "OK, if you feel that they put the planes in afterward, like a special effect, how do you explain all the different angles provided by ameteur video. When, on the other hand, you've got 20-some foreign nationals taking flying lessons across the country (including here, in Minnesota) all of which show no interest in takeoffs or landings, rather level flight and how the communication and transponder hardware work. 12 months later, these same men are on flight lists that match the planes in question. The bigger conspiracy in my opinion, is why the US government, who'll crawl up your butt for not paying your taxes, presumably knew or did nothing leading up to the attacks. I claim, the powers that be knew, told their subordinates to observe, but not interfere, and quick as you can say fundamentalist, the US suffers the single worst attack on our own soil since Pearl Harbor.

[nailitper]

this are praticaly all the plane footage that was filmed http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=76PeBYvi_5Y not that many videos , but i dont think that usa permited the attack like in pearl harbor , but the pilot that suposedly flew the plane against the pentagon manage to fly a comercial plane so close to the ground , normally pilots to fly close to the ground not almost touching the ground like the terrorist did , had to train for months before doing such maneuveurs for shows and only a minority can do that ,and i can say that part of that minority are pilots from my countrie http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvkbpn14uB0 , but terrorists made that impossible move , by just reading manuals and training on cessnas , so if there were no pilots and a plane on the pentagon strike , why would they risk to use planes on the towers? the hijackers could miss the hit , the planes could when strike the wtc blew outside or not crash the exact way they needed them to crash not doing much damage to the wtc then not making the colllapse of the tower credible (probably it would be what would happen if they had used real planes, cause comercial hollow planes made of alluminium could not enter the tower without causing any action to the reaction of the contact with the towers like you can see on the videos of the planes striking the towers , they just disapear on the interior of the tower)

"Never, ever, be sorry for a stance taken or an opinion given" im not , thats why i made this thread , to read opinions , and to debate:) sorry if i was a litlle agressive on the coment below , i accidently deleted a huge coment i had written and that just made me frustated

[nailitper]

here are some more interesting videos

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=HW8fIMwGQgs
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vRf5kgqBnG0
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=YYtopWeedQg
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgAz91au6Q

[JackRandom]

That's a hell of a lot of subversive tap dancing to cover up a missle attack. When you could "allow" Muslim fundamentalists to train in country, and carry out an attack of martyrdom. Your theories would be easier to swallow if there weren't so many eyewitnesses and home video of a plane flying into the building. Now, on the other hand, the Pentagon attack is sketchy, the lack of video especially with a camera pointed at the point of impact, the lack of wreckage in corolation to the amout of surface dammage the mass confiscation of surrounding video footage from nearby businesses. I could buy a missile attack there.

Dont forget about the SAM defensive platforms that were NOT activated despite the fact that the attack against the WTC had already been committed.